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Old 09-14-2008, 10:25 AM
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Nothing wrong with bigger girls performing - but nothing wrong with skinny girls either ...
I'm with you on that Fleur! Of course bigger girls can be great performers. It doesn't matter what size they are, as long as they have the confidence.

However, the problem with all this positivity on bigger girls is an effect of negativity on slimmer girls.

A few people on here have said that the skinny girls weren't good performers, and I wasn't there, I don't know which performers theya re referring to so I can't dispute that. The reason they weren't very good though would be nothing to do with their size. Maybe they hadn't practised enough, maybe they doubted themselves, maybe they didn't put enough into their performance. Size has nothing to do with it.

In burlesque, as long as you have confidence, it will show. Size doesn't come into it.

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Old 09-14-2008, 10:40 AM
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My favourite performer is probably 3 sizes smaller then me. I can honestly say that even if she was 3 sizes bigger she would still be my favourite. She has some fantastic wonderful original routines and ideas.

A good performer is a good performer. No matter their size.

I do wish I could wake up one morning two sizes smaller but for my body that would involve a starvation diet and in the end I enjoy life too much to limit myself in that way. Doesn't stop me being slightly jealous of girls who can eat what they want and stay a size 8 but at the end of the day it falls into the same category as being jealous of people with great hair. I don't judge them by it, but do wish my hair could look like that too
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Old 09-14-2008, 10:49 AM
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As I said I was not trying to be negative about the size of the performer I had seen it is just that I am brand new into this and so was slightly concerned that I would be seen as a freek... that is where my confidence maybe needs some work!

based on what I have been told and seen on you tube since I started this post (this is only my second day) I agree that size does not matter and it is the iconfidence of the performer, their routeen and things like that which matter not size wheter big or small or very big or very very small.... I hope I have not caused offece to anyone it was honestly not my intention.
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Old 09-14-2008, 10:57 AM
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As I said I was not trying to be negative about the size of the performer I had seen it is just that I am brand new into this and so was slightly concerned that I would be seen as a freek... that is where my confidence maybe needs some work!

based on what I have been told and seen on you tube since I started this post (this is only my second day) I agree that size does not matter and it is the iconfidence of the performer, their routeen and things like that which matter not size wheter big or small or very big or very very small.... I hope I have not caused offece to anyone it was honestly not my intention.
Not in the slightest Andromada you'll just find that round here we detest the whole thing society/the media do about one week chastising women for being too fat and then the very next week commentating on photos of skinny girls saying they should have a proper lunch. We want people to know they can be beautiful no matter what the size, age, colour, shape, sex.... You weren't sizeist at all, it's ok.

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Old 09-14-2008, 11:02 AM
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the whole thing society/the media do about one week chastising women for being too fat and then the very next week commentating on photos of skinny girls saying they should have a proper lunch.
Or in some magazines who manage to do the same thing within 2 pages
In one edition my boss was reading it was about the same person with opposing complaints 5 pages apart. Methinks they need a continuity editor somethimes
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Old 09-14-2008, 11:42 AM
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Actually, I have to say, I was rather offended by the attitude of the first page of this thread. Before anyone worries I'm having a go, it was no one person in particular, just a general feeling. I'm no longer a skinny girl, but I used to be extremely so, so I still think like one, almost. And it seems to me that there seems to be an attitude emerging around burlesque that worries me - that bigger girls are so well accepted that the smaller girls are being less accepted. I noticed it a year or so ago when I first stepped into the burlesque community, and it offended me then.

I'm a damn good performer (may sound big headed but this is no time for false modesty) and when I was a size 6 I was still a damn good performer. I have many friends who are skinny girls who are damn good performers. I have friends who are big girls who are damn good performers - and I've seen some terrible performers, big and small. But what if I'd posted up 'every girl I've seen perform who's been over a size 14 has been really boring' - what would have happened? I suspect that with the outcry I wouldn't be welcomed back to the forum easily. Yet the other way round, no one bats an eyelid ...
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Old 09-14-2008, 12:00 PM
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Actually, I have to say, I was rather offended by the attitude of the first page of this thread. Before anyone worries I'm having a go, it was no one person in particular, just a general feeling. I'm no longer a skinny girl, but I used to be extremely so, so I still think like one, almost. And it seems to me that there seems to be an attitude emerging around burlesque that worries me - that bigger girls are so well accepted that the smaller girls are being less accepted. I noticed it a year or so ago when I first stepped into the burlesque community, and it offended me then.

I'm a damn good performer (may sound big headed but this is no time for false modesty) and when I was a size 6 I was still a damn good performer. I have many friends who are skinny girls who are damn good performers. I have friends who are big girls who are damn good performers - and I've seen some terrible performers, big and small. But what if I'd posted up 'every girl I've seen perform who's been over a size 14 has been really boring' - what would have happened? I suspect that with the outcry I wouldn't be welcomed back to the forum easily. Yet the other way round, no one bats an eyelid ...
well i'm sorry i have already said at the very start that i am very very new to this and i have only seen a couple of performers ever one was great one was not..... I asked an honest question in the hope of getting an honest perspective from inside the scene .... which is what I felt i got which is that all sizes are ok.

However based on what you have said perhaps this is the wrong place for someone like me so in experanced and so able to offend when only wishing to learn. I'm sorry

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This thread keeps popping up every know and then.

NOBODY GIVES A SHIT !

As long as you entertain the audience you can be whatever shape size and colour and all the audience look at is what you are presenting for there amusement.

And if there are some bitches ( male or female in the audience)
she's to fat, he's to thin, don't like that outfit blah blah blah.

Then there not true burlesque fans and are probably just there to drink and make themselves feel better about not having a creative outlet in life.

Sorry for being blunt but as a sex we spend far to much time worrying about what
others think and trying to keep upwith the airbrushed images the media present and finding fault with a celeb blister who dare to step out the house with celulite and spots.

ENOUGH !
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This thread keeps popping up every know and then.

NOBODY GIVES A SHIT !

As long as you entertain the audience you can be whatever shape size and colour and all the audience look at is what you are presenting for there amusement.

And if there are some bitches ( male or female in the audience)
she's to fat, he's to thin, don't like that outfit blah blah blah.

Then there not true burlesque fans and are probably just there to drink and make themselves feel better about not having a creative outlet in life.

Sorry for being blunt but as a sex we spend far to much time worrying about what
others think and trying to keep upwith the airbrushed images the media present and finding fault with a celeb blister who dare to step out the house with celulite and spots.

ENOUGH !
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Old 09-14-2008, 12:17 PM
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that is the problem, she did not entertain...... it had nothing to do with her size, costume etc... but when you have only seen small performers it is an honest question about bigger performers being as accepted as smaller ones. I honestly feel that size is irrelevant as long as the entertainment is there.
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