We are offering a select few perfomers artists, photographers clothes designers,
anyone with a creative skill the chance to show it at a dance event in late october in a premiere london venue
we are asking a fee of £250 per person to cover the costs of hiring the venue, staging and promoting the event
a number of vips from the media and press will be invited you will be given a trade stand to sell/promote your product,in front of an expected 500 people, minimum crowd
perfomers will get a 10-15 minete slot to showcase your talents on stage to the audience

money from tickets sold will be donate to chairity
this will be an excellent networking opportunity and chance to have your perfomance filmed and photographed
for all enquires please email Katsomaya, Daryl or James at soulgrovermusic@hotmail.com
please do not reply via threads online as we are unable to have time to reply to eavch one on the mob site due to time restraints

what charity are the proceeds being donated to?

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I'm a little confused about the arrangements for this event. Could you provide a breakdown of how the £250 participation fee would be spent, please?

Furthermore, did you mean to type £25, rather than £250?

I see you mention that the charge will cover the cost of "promoting the event". Is this printing fees and website design, or is the promoter taking a fee?

Would it not make more sense for the ticket sales to cover the cost of the event, with the content suppliers either donating their services, products or making their own contribution to charity?

By its very nature, charity suggests pooling resources and donating services for free?
As such, I'm struggling a little to grasp the concept of paying a huge fee to cover the cost of performing for charity. Is there not an alternate venue you could use? Perhaps a venue that would offer (at least) a discounted hire rate owing to the nature of the event? Likewise with the promotion supplies - perhaps offer the printing company a free advert on the flyer in exchange for donating their printing services to charity?

All charity events I have performed at in the past have covered any unavoidable overheads through ticket sales. I have never been asked to pay a fee in order to be a part of an event, even when I was new to the circuit.

Considering your arrangement, it would seem that the charity in question may not be getting the best deal. If asking for donations of £250 from content suppliers is necessary in order to cover costs, this suggests that ticket sales alone will not cover the cost of putting the event on. If this is correct, it would further imply that ticket sales minus the costs of putting the event together leave you with negative finances... I understand that you are offering content suppliers a chance to showcase their product within a 'for charity' frame, but is it really for charity if the content producers are paying service providers in order to be part of the event? In which case, wouldn't it be more beneficial for me to donate £250 directly to charity?

It may also be worth researching the difference between the £250 you are asking performers to pay to perform and the fee performers tend to get paid for performing at burlesque events (small and large).

If you're serious about finding performers to take part in this huge event, it would certainly be worth while posting a reply to my questions. As your business proposal stands, I can't help but find the arrangements ambiguous.

I don't mean to rain on your parade - raising money for charity is a wonderful reason for putting an event together. I simply mean to voice the concerns that I'm sure a number of other performers will have.

Clarification on the points I've highlighted would greatly help your charity.

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The email contact is soulgroovermusic@hotmail.com as we recently had people let us down and stab us in the back we wont go into business details in a public forum,everythings pretty clear i think and anyone genuinely sincerely interested can get all the relevant information via contacting our email,its not sound practice to go into business details to the whole world,too many opportunities for people to pull a fast one,we have a charities shortlist and will decide which ones would benefit most

If I was willing and able to donate £250 to charity, wouldn't it be better for me just to give it to them?

I take from the rough numbers you've given that this event won't make more for charity than the combined total of all the performers' contributions (which, at £250 a pop will no doubt be a not-inconsiderable sum). The only point in putting on charity events is if the total donations raised are greater than the amount in total it costs to put the event on, surely?

This isn't 'business' though, is it? It's charity, right?

On the face of it, and no offence meant, you're asking people to pay you a weeks' wages up front with no guarantees of either "coverage" or charitable donation. Any performer would be reticent to engage in such a deal, and if you're serious about attracting talent for whatever this event is, you'll need to be more clear about why you need so much money.

I understand that business is business, but I doubt you'll find any performers whilst you're going about things in such a hush-hush way.

Actually i think it would be nice to open up the dialogue on that,good question,we thought of Breakthrough,the Red Cross and Barnados,but theres a huge amount of smaller charities that dont have high profiles so any suggestions are definately welcomed,it would be nice to hear peoples views on which charities they feel need more support and exposure and awaireness raised. So you ideas and opinions on who needs more help wether they are personal to you or not are definately appreciated from Mob members

On your current budgetary estimates, will the charity (and I really can't believe you haven't picked one yet) make more money in dontations than the total costs for the show? In other words, why shouldn't I just give £250 to Banardo's directly?

Oh, and are you taking a promoter's fee?

With all respect, I think you're really going to struggle to find performers who will pay £250 to perform to raise money for a mystery charity, the idea is totally lost on me. Can i ask how much tickets are being sold at and if all the proceeds from ticket sales will go to the charity or just a percentage?

Just to add no-one will be taking a fee,ourselves included,few venues or promoters 'do charity',as we learned some time ago,so contributing artists,in particular aspiring performers,are getting a platform,we want everyone to get something from it,be it future work,media coverage of their talents,something that helps get them on the map,and the fee contributes to purely the expense of staging it in a quality venue with the best sound light and presentation available