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07-30-2008, 01:08 PM
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The Double Dee-lightful
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Originally Posted by James
If it's the same person I'm thinking of, she applied for the Bizarre Ball with a showreel of acts that were blatently ripped off from other people. It's a shame because she actually made the Bizarre Ball shortlist until we pointed out that EVERY SINGLE ONE of her acts had been ripped off from someone else.
Anyway, please do not mention any names on here. The person in question is well known to the burlesque community and most people know to stay well clear of rip-off artists like this,
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Thank you James.
Dont worry i will be mentioning no names as i dont work like that. It is the same person you're thinking of as i've already heard about the Ball.
Hopefully she'll learn her lesson
DD x
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07-30-2008, 01:22 PM
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Thank you Delilah - I had a feeling I knew who it was, I just didn't want to throw stones until I was 100% sure.
Because this part of the message has now served it's purpose and gotten the attention of the copy cat I have now deleted it, although I have kept a copy for my own personal records and in case nothing changes.
Whilst I acknowedge that performers do have a cross over of acts and ideas, I am appalled by the lack of imagination and blatantness of this performers actions. I also know this performer uses the MoB so this thread will not go unnoticed.
The ettiquette of the MoB forum dictates that we cannot openly mention the performer - that doesn't mean that we haven't already been talking about the performer privately or in groups. Be warned copy cat - the people you have annoyed have very good reputations and they will not sit around bemoaning the fact, they will talk openly. Stop now and salvage whatever of your reputation you still have.
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07-30-2008, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Gehenna
There may has also been talk of one of Fleur du Mals routines being ripped off.
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Not unless there's something going on I don't know about there hasn't. As far as I know none of my acts have ever been ripped off, copied, infringed on, or anything else.
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07-30-2008, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Gehenna
Thank you Delilah - I had a feeling I knew who it was, I just didn't want to throw stones until I was 100% sure.
I think it's important to point out a few facts:
1) The rip off merchant doesn't have the talent you have, not even close.
2) As I now know who the performer is I will not book her ever, no mater how good she gets. I and my wife also have a good relationship with Lulu Spanx so I doubt she will ever work The Cherry Pop Peep Show. You have an excellent relationship with Fey Tish so Red Rocks! will probably freeze her out. Angel and I do have a friendship Candee Handful Photography so Dr. Sketchy Birmingham could freeze her out also. I'd also be shocked if she got work with Cherry Fox at Silhouette/Appleby Burlesque - that leaves The Candy Box, not a chance.
3) The performer also won a contest a few months back. The contest was fixed by the actual club organiser. I actually recruited people for the contest when I thought it was a contest - I've since continuousely apologised to all the talent I recuited, and I will never do anything for that club ever again. For the record, the contest was not at a regular Burlesque night, it was a fetish club night.
4) The performer was also in another Burlesque contest in which she lost. Apparently she complined to the event organiser afterwards because she didn't win. The actual winner of the contest is an amazing performer that I have worked with and will work with again.
5) The more people I talk to who know the performer in question, the more people I find who don't like said performer.
Yes - be annoyed. But rest assured that the Burlesque scene and it's supportiveness will freeze out this performer. I've just seen the pictures of the act that has annoyed you - it looks virtually identical - and I empathise with how angry you are. For the record said performer has talked about her 'Britney Spears' routine she has, after she saw Angel LaVey perform 'The Burlesque Factor'. I also believe she has ripped off Cherry Fox's 'Go-Go April Showers' act. Sadly the rip off merchant was also at the Big Burlesque Bout. There may has also been talk of one of Fleur du Mals routines being ripped off.
Whilst I acknowedge that performers do have a cross over of acts and ideas, I am appalled by the lack of imagination and blatantness of this performers actions. I also know this performer uses the MoB so this thread will not go unnoticed.
The ettiquette of the MoB forum dictates that we cannot openly mention the performer - that doesn't mean that we haven't already been talking about the performer privately or in groups. Be warned copy cat - the people you have annoyed have very good reputations and they will not sit around bemoaning the fact, they will talk openly. Stop now and salvage whatever of your reputation you still have.
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Thankyou Gehenna, that really means alot to me. It just upsets me that its so blatant. Especially now you've said about Angels act. I had heard about Cherry Fox's one too & have since heard several others.
Thanks to everyone and their support  It honestly does mean a lot to me.
DDx
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07-30-2008, 01:38 PM
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Wow I really hope she sees this.
I don't understand how anyone would believe they could get away without people noticing they have ripped off others' ideas.
How can anyone have such a lack of imagination and creativity?
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07-30-2008, 01:46 PM
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I would just like to clarify something I said - the rip off merchant was in the audience at the Big Burlesque Bout - the rip off merchant did not perform at the Big Burlesque Bout.
I suspect that had the rip off merchant auditioned for the Big Burlesque Bout then said performer would have come last by a country mile.
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07-30-2008, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Gehenna
I also believe she has ripped off Cherry Fox's 'Go-Go April Showers' act.
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Umbrella/ parasol dances are very common, I cant lay claim to a prop, as far as I know no one does a 60's themed umbrella routine like mine.
I feel that the originality in my acts comes from my personality and my odd choices of music. I dont mind people rehashing the common themes I use, I mean I do a cat routine, very unoriginal, but its the way I do it, my way of moving, my costume design and my music choices, that make these classic ideas in original routines.
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07-30-2008, 01:59 PM
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You guys are actually scaring me.
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07-30-2008, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mitzi Van Dal
You guys are actually scaring me.
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sorry sweetie, dont mean to scare anyone, but just making sure people are aware of whats going on
DD x
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07-30-2008, 02:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gehenna
I would just like to clarify something I said - the rip off merchant was in the audience at the Big Burlesque Bout - the rip off merchant did not perform at the Big Burlesque Bout.
I suspect that had the rip off merchant auditioned for the Big Burlesque Bout then sad performer would have come last by a country mile.
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That's just terrible, sit, watch, steal. If you don't have talent and own ideas stay away to be honest. I definitely wouldn't support rip off numbers.
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