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07-24-2008, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tempest devyne
Dance Fever freestyled to it and blew me and the rest of the audience away)
I'd rather see a plus sized version of the Pussy Cat Dolls like a 'burlesque'/cabaret version of the Russian Big Ballet Company or what was the name of the plus sized tap dancing troupe that was always on variety shows in the 80s.....can't remember...
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That would be amazing! I love the Big Ballet Company 
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07-24-2008, 05:02 PM
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watch this space for the fat bottomed girls rendition . .
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07-24-2008, 05:21 PM
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Is spending too much time with a Man in a Bath
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Isn't the Pussycat Dolls Lounge in Las Vegas much more of a choreographed dance/strip show with lip-synching?
Lucille - get that Man In a Bath script finished!!
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07-24-2008, 05:49 PM
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is keeping warm and toasty in front of the fire
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Originally Posted by RedSarah
watch this space for the fat bottomed girls rendition . .
x x x
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oh yes, I forgot, sorry
can't wait
I want to see Scandal from Bohemia's routine to Fat Bottomed Girls one day too, but Seattle is a long way away. although I think she's coming to Europe soon
(btw you could add 'Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others' by the Smiths to the Fat Bottomed Girls myspace playlist....)
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07-24-2008, 06:47 PM
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Hopes some people will vote for her :)
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That would be fantastic. Someone must do it! Bet it would go down a storm.
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07-24-2008, 08:01 PM
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I can't stand the Pussy cat dolls, I have never seen them, not even a picture but their 'music' annoys the hell out of me, largly due to the fact that 'dontcha' suits Eric Foremans mum on that 70's show FAR better then a pop song. 
I also hate the fact that once some one says something like that is burly the people who know nothing about burly start asking 'so do you do what they do', and, then you have to give them a history lesson in the hopes that they will correct everyone they know and then maybe, just maybe, through word of mouth the whole world will start to understand...
'I Have a dream'.
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07-24-2008, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by LucilleBurn
Surely this lot should really be labelled a "cabaret" troupe, as opposed to a burlesque troupe?
Even then I think giving this project the label of cabaret is pushing it a bit; it sounds a wee bit like a posh girl-band or touring tribute show to me.
Does it tick anyone else off that The Pussycat Dolls are labelled a burlesque troupe? In what sense, way, shape or form do they merit that title - someone please enlighten me? Last time I checked no self-respecting burlesque performer is jumping about in their best hip-hop bling declaring that we should all wish our siginficant other was hot like them..DONTCHA! (Well, maybe a few do  )
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Yes, you are right; they should be labeled as "cabaret". This is one issue that has been irking me. There are faux "burlesque" troupe popping up everywhere that try to emulate the Pussycat Dolls; they call themselves burlesque performers but they are highly opposed to the "stripping". In America, burlesque was built on strippers, i.e. Gypsy Rose Lee, Lili St. Cyr, and Tempest Storm.
In a very recent interview, even Dita von Teese believes burlesque has been commercialized and sanitized for the mainstream viewer. She continues to stress that burlesque is about the striptease. It seems these troupes ignore the true history of burlesque by creating a false version of burlesque, one that says burlesque is not about stripping. Frankly, for performers like me, it's rather insulting.
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07-24-2008, 11:56 PM
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is back to uni soon so may be around here less :(
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Its really hard I guess because dance is always evolving and everyone has different ides about how broad the term "burlesque" can be.
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07-25-2008, 08:37 AM
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Mind you, burlesque doesn't have to be about the stripping.
Though they have clearly got the complete wrong idea.
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07-25-2008, 08:49 AM
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when the going gets weird, the weird go pro!
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Burlesque...a defnition....
bur·lesque (br-lsk)
n.
1. A literary or dramatic work that ridicules a subject either by presenting a solemn subject in an undignified style or an inconsequential subject in a dignified style. See Synonyms at caricature.
2. A ludicrous or mocking imitation; a travesty: "The antics of the defense attorneys turned the trial into a burlesque of justice."
3. A variety show characterized by broad ribald comedy, dancing, and striptease.
v. bur·lesqued, bur·lesqu·ing, bur·lesques
v.tr.
To imitate mockingly or humorously: "always bringing junk . . . home, as if he were burlesquing his role as provider" John Updike.
Also, some sources and roots in language - From French, comical, from Italian burlesco, from burla, joke, probably from Spanish, from Vulgar Latin *burrula, diminutive of Late Latin burrae, nonsense, from burra, wool.]
Dance is always evolving, as are forms of burlesque, but to me, unless it fits in with the above definition it's not really burlesque. Anything else is diluted or can be categorised as something else entirely.
I'm a bit of an advocate of the fact that Striptease and Burlesque are two very different things, the reason that the two have become meshed and are referred to as one and the same is down to the modern-day resurgance of the artform.
Striptease was performed in burlesque theatres/shows. So many people forget that Striptease artists were in the burlesque shows, they weren't the burlesque itself - if that makes sense?
The burlesque circuit was a cheaper, seedier ring of venues and shows that was the step below vaudeville. Back in "the day" it was the first rung on a ladder that you would work your way up.
The best way I've seen it summed up in a nutshell is in the movie singing in the rain - we see Gene Kelly's character performing the same act three times - burlesque theatre, vaudeville show then finally boradway - the only difference is the producton values get higher and the comedy gets reduced.
The Striptease act that would be contained within the burlesque show is the aspect that has caught on and resurged and been named burlesque, but by definition, it isn't burlesque. Unless of course it's making fun of or parodying something - then in which case it's more a burlesque with striptease in it. But you could be here all day arguing the semantics.
And finally to come back on topic, as such neither are the Pussycat Dolls.
The term burlesque is broad, absolutely, but I still don't think it can be applied to them.
Last edited by LucilleBurn; 07-25-2008 at 09:08 AM.
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