Would you have been a rebel, 50 years ago?

Broomy · #1 (**permalink**) 07-12-2008, 08:52 PM

Tempest Divine, recently started a thread about the best advice you have ever been given.
http://www.ministryofburlesque.com/b...een-given.html
Lots of responses quoted their Grandmothers. If either or both of your Grandmothers are still with you, good on them and lucky you. How I miss mine.
Fifty years ago, well fifty one to be precise, the BBC launched the very first popular music show called: "The Six Five Special."
Six-Five Special - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It must have been ground breaking, I wonder if my Nan watched it, I don't even know if they had a television in 1957. TV was gaining popularity by then, but many families still couldn't afford it.
It's just a thought but if anyone has a relative still with us that remembers that programme, I would love to know if it was deemed improper, or subversive or whatever.
And, dear guest, if you are just surfing these pages and you, or someone you know, was around then, please tell us what it was like, at the birth of popular music. Here's a reminder:
YouTube - #3 - "SIX-FIVE Special" (1958)
And girls if you love the skirts, make one.

tempest devyne · #2 (**permalink**) 07-12-2008, 09:05 PM

I saw your thread and thought - 50 years ago, that's nothing, that's my mother's generation not my grandmother's, and she's very much still with us (stop it Tempest)....then realised how old I'm getting, sob

My mother's family was one of the one's that bought a telly for the Queen's coronation in 1953 (so I'm assuming they were particularly well off). All of my family have been rebels, just not in the way you'd expect from telly and film ideals. My family went as far the other way from the 6-5 Special, Elvis, The Wild One, Rebel Without A cause, the Rolling Stones etc etc as you could possibly could. They clung to the Bible and were the outsiders in their own right because they put up (and almost perversely enjoyed) being chastised and ridiculed by not only the normals of the age but the newly emerging rebels too.

I would love to think I'd have been a rebel then too, but I suspect being gay in times when it was still illegal for men at least (because women couldn't be gay, Queen Vicoria had said so), I would have been a closet rebel and probably have gone even madder than I am now in a far freer world. We have an awful lot to thank the rebels of the 50's and 60's and 70's for.

Fleur du Mal · #3 (**permalink**) 07-13-2008, 10:50 AM

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because women couldn't be gay, Queen Vicoria had said so

You know, I think that was a myth - QI said so, but I can't remember what the actual story is ... >_<

Unfortunately not one of my grandparents is still with us, and both of my parents were born in the 1950s, so no info from me Broomy. My dad often used to tell me what it was like in the 70s though!

tempest devyne · #4 (**permalink**) 07-13-2008, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fleur du Mal

You know, I think that was a myth - QI said so, but I can't remember what the actual story is ... >_<

Unfortunately not one of my grandparents is still with us, and both of my parents were born in the 1950s, so no info from me Broomy. My dad often used to tell me what it was like in the 70s though!

haha Wikipedia = bad, imdb = bad, QI = well it's Stephen Fry isn't it so it has to be correct, snigger, I'm just the same, they could tell me on that cheese biscuits are the best shampoo in the world and my hair would stink from stilton crackers conditioner for months

The 70s were ace, much better than the 80s. Though we were worse off we still had glam rock, Morecambe and Wise, The Persuaders, punk, fairy dust, clackers, Evil Kneivel, Liberace, Danny la Rue.... (how on earth did it take me till my twenties to suss I was gay?) instead of the I'm alright Jack mentality, Falklands War, miners strikes, Thatcher, Black Lace, Orville....

(lights blue touch paper and retires before the argument explodes...)

Fleur du Mal · #5 (**permalink**) 07-13-2008, 03:38 PM

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haha Wikipedia = bad, imdb = bad, QI = well it's Stephen Fry isn't it so it has to be correct

Stephen Fry would not lie to us!

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The 70s were ace, much better than the 80s

Haha, my mother once told me 'I hated the 80s, nothing good happened to me in the 80s'. To which I replied 'Yeah, thanks mum!' (born in 1984 ...)

December Charm · #6 (**permalink**) 07-13-2008, 04:32 PM

My Grandmother is still here, and she was in her teens/early twenties during the fifties so is an endless source of retro knowledge. I will ask her for you Broomy!

heathersweet · #7 (**permalink**) 07-14-2008, 12:28 AM

By the time my grandparents were raising a family in the 50's they had calmed down some what and were respectable church gowers and grandad had reached the status of forman at the mill.

In the 20's 30's and 40's they were rebals.

Both of them getting the cane at school for unruley bahavior.
Grandad being thrown in the clinc for numberous political reasons.
Grandma visiting grandad in france with a belly full of shrapnal and feeling sorry for
the poor soldiers with shell shock, before being told they were speaking german not giberish and not to draw attention.
Bangs on the ward window and flashes the V'z.

which insidentaly she did to my dad the other week for finding her secret stash of fags.

Na there's something in the blood.
I once told my head teacher if he chose to send his teenage daughters to a private school in blackburn, why should i put up with a crap school.
If it's so good why don't you send you kids here !

Oh to be fourteen and fearless. Born in any dacade i'd be a pain in the arse.

Fleur, my ma says the same thing. also an 84 child.
We should get them together to have a good bitching sessions.

Fleur du Mal · #8 (**permalink**) 07-14-2008, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by heathersweet

I once told my head teacher if he chose to send his teenage daughters to a private school in blackburn, why should i put up with a crap school.
If it's so good why don't you send you kids here !

It's weird how many head teachers do that isn't it?

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Fleur, my ma says the same thing. also an 84 child.
We should get them together to have a good bitching sessions.

Haha - that'd be a terror to behold ...
I wouldn't mind so much had my brother and sister not been born in the 70s and 90s respectively - so it's just me that was 'nothing good'!

heathersweet · #9 (**permalink**) 07-14-2008, 12:00 PM

Awwww,

Im sure it was just the recession, strikes, and shitty pop tunes that mare reminisance of the 80's.

I'll tell my god daughter the same thing in twenty years time.
yeah the late naughtys were shit, we spent to much on credit cards,
noone could afford petrol or rich food,
your a lucky sod to have such a devoted mother.
She spent thousnads on you, buying you winnie the pooh, and sma.

I would of put you on Ebay.

mwa ha ha.