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Old 09-07-2007, 08:10 AM
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I was totally honest with my employer and they appreciated that, they said if I had hidden it then it would have been more of an issue. I am on a BIG career path at my job and I went them before I started to perform or model.

It would be great to make enough money to live from modelling and dancing but I have a mortgage and a car and I can't afford to risk my job - which I imagine is a situation a lot of people are in. I'd go with honesty every time, if your employer has a problem with it then you'd need to make a choice... it's a very difficult situation.

I did the same with my family, I was honest with them.

It is really difficult, but I think it would be worse in the long run if you hid the fact and someone 'stumbled' upon it.

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Old 09-07-2007, 08:17 AM
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Hmmm, it's worth considering, and you're right about the stumbling ... but with my job I don't really care. It's affecting my health badly and I don't plan to stay there long anyway (which is a shame, I think they want me to stay for a good long time). Besides, my boss can be quite ... dismissive might not be the right word, but it's me being diplomatic. It's really just a temporary way of making money more than a career - just need to find something that suits me better but I don't know where to start!
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Old 09-07-2007, 08:38 AM
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Fair enough, just be aware of references and things like that. Employers aren't allowed to give negative references, they can either give you a good reference or refuse to give you any

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Well, I've invited my dad round 'for a chat' this afternoon and basically told him I've got something to tell him about and asked him to be open minded. He said (quite worriedly) 'You're not on the game are you?'! So hopefully being a stripper will be quite tame in comparison! Then he said he'd keep an open mind and that if what I had to tell him made me happy then it was OK, which was reassuring. I may find some videos of Immodesty and other great performers to show him what it's all about nowadays. Let you know how it goes later this afternoon - wish me luck ...
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Old 09-07-2007, 10:33 AM
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"you're not on the game are you?" what are dad's like??!! My dad asked my mum if that's what I was doing when she explained what Burlesque was!

Hope it all goes well sweet, keep us posted

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Well, he's just left and it went even better than I expected. I didn't even have to explain burlesque, he knew stripping was involved and was really interested! i showed him the video of Immodesty at Miss Exotic World, and one on youtube of Missy Malone and Leyla Rose pillowfighting and he was very impressed. He got it straight away and was asking me all sorts of questions. I even showed him some of my modelling and performance pictures - he wants copies of some of my less risque pinups! Apparently he's dead proud of me for being so confident, aaaahhhhhhh!

I did tell him my concerns about my mum though, and about how I feel she just disapproves of me for some reason, and he said he'd have a word, but that maybe I'm misjudging her. he thinks she'll be as intrigued as he was, so hopefully he's right.

It's a load off my mind, I can tell you! Oh, and he thinks that work can't possibly object and have no right to either. I feel a lot better after that!
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Both my parents think burlesque is great so I am really lucky from that point of view.

I recently started a new job, some you might remember a mortified post I wrote the evening I had started.

I went into my new job in my Austin Reed suit in Canary Wharf. I have quite a high up position within the department so did not want anyone to know about my burlesque until I had proven how professional I am in the work place. I knew I was going to have to tell them as next Tues I am on TV and my burelsque is mentioned!

The first day in my new job I find out the whole department including the head of IT knew I was a burlesque performer and had seen some of my photo of me dressed as Jessica Rabbit!

There were a few people who apparetently were a bit worried before I started... but then somone put them straight and its all worked out.... I've been told I will be very popular at the Christmas party ;-)

I think honestly is the best policy. If they find out through the back door it could all turn out worst than if you tell them straight and explain things properly.

People have a lot of missunderstandings about burlesque. Tell them and explain what it really is!

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Old 09-10-2007, 04:30 PM
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Yes I remember that mortified post Miss Blush! I'm happy that it's all turned out well for you.

Bit of an update for thos eof you who are interested - my dad showed my mum some of my modelling pictures and she said they were very classy, she'd like to see more, was happy as long as I was safe, and even thought I'd probably go down the burly route anyway! So it seems I was worrying needlessly - as a great many people predicted. Thanks to everyone for your advice and support! xxx
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Hi folks, this is a common worry we hear about and it is one of frustration over facts.

It may help to point out to mothers and fathers, employers and aunties' neighbours that Burlesque and Striptease are different forms of entertainment and that Striptease is in many ways, the antithesis to stripping since it focuses on what you don't show rather than what you do show.

Also, Fleur- it's probably helpful to do a wee bit of research in to stars of old and today on both sides of the Atlantic in order to show your mother the range and variety on offer to you - and her.

If she is determined to follow the misconception that burlesque is striptease and that striptease is stripping, then you will do better to show her an alternative, older interpretation rather than try and change her mindset on modern imagery. Go to it's theatrical roots and show her that it is a healthy and enduring form - it just has two different cultural branches now.

My short history might help - click here.

i.e. If your mum finds Carry On movies acceptable viewing, then you are half way to winning her over. Burlesque really is the main pillar of British humour - it's satirical, silly and saucy and it has been the backbone of popular theatre since the 18th century. Even Morcambe and Wise burlesqued 'The Stripper'!

The striptease elements are really modern and not actually relevant to Traditional Burlesque unless they are part of a narrative.

If you can get her to appreciate that the word 'burlesque' means exactly the kind of light hearted bawdy entertainment that she grew up with, you may find it easier to show her that the more modern American reinterpretation of burlesque is although more risque than satirical, still all about the theatrical side of saucy.

If she recognises that your doing a routine doesn't necessarily mean you will be taking your clothes off in public for the sake of titillating others, she may loosen up to the idea. Comedy is a powerful negotiator.

Perhaps if she saw our site, she'd be more reassured? Our agency site gives definitions for each category and i doubt there is anything on there to offend.

If it helps, you could mention that the MoB (i.e. James and I) have never had any interest in the stripping industry (it has simply never entered our lives) and our brand of entertainment is popular with all sorts of people - we often produce shows for major corporate firms including Vodaphone and The BBC.

Mums and dads are probably more worried about their offspring been seen as a 'sex object' and becoming vulnerable rather than worrying about what we actually do whilst performing.

Perhaps your mum would enjoy a good burlesque show and be reassured in seeing the range of ages and the number of women in attendance - why not take her out?

I hope this helps!
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Old 09-10-2007, 08:26 PM
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Hey Kittie,

Thanks for your advice! It's all turned out OK though, as I wrote above, my mum's fine with it and suspected I might 'go down that route' as she said! I was worried because Carry On films etc. are exactly the kind of thing she doesn't seem to like (except possibly Carry On Screaming, which is great). But she says what I'm doing looks classy, which I take to mean she's OK with it! I even showed my dad some of my performance pcitures and told him where I get my nipple tassels so he knows exactly what it involves, but a few videos helped too! I may well invite them to my next performance and see what they think ...

Thank you so much for all your wise words - I find it amazing and lovely that you're so involved in the forums and look after the people who post here!
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