How about tie it in a bobble, a low pony tail at the nape of your neck, then tie a thin band around the bottom of the pony tail and tuck it over - lift the bottom bobble up and tuck into the top bobble and pin and spray to fix, then with your fingers, pat into shape. It should make a really nice cone/roll shape along the nape of your neck
I know that's a really weird way of explaining it, but thats the only way I can think of!
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